The Coin-Flip Theory
Hello everybody,
I would like to tell you something about this strategy http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=494447 (more a system, because there is no MM included etc.) I am a student 19 years old, I study economics. I traded demo since my 16th and real when I was 18 years old. I saw alot strategy's and systems, made my own out of others and after alot tweaking it was finally done. It made and still does make a steady x% monthly. Everyday I had to do the same thing preparation mental, read somewhat about the news upcomming (I trade technical); this got me bored. I still liked trading alot don't get me wrong.
Then I read this thread about a month ago, http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...444377&page=79 from a mathematical standpoint it is fairly easy, but in practice it is really hard as always often with mathematical things. I really love to make things work so I began to search for a basic working system for this, made my own out of others (what I really recommend for beginners after they read everything at Babypips).
Now I am going to tell you why I am posting this here. My system for Rags to Riches is almost the same as what OP posted here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=494447.
The rules:
- Trade on the hourly on major pairs, I only traded EUR/USD
- Trade @ the second candle after the opening of the London session (so you don't get disturbed by opening breakouts).
- Close the trade @ opening level of the candle
- Open the trade @ closing level of the candle
- Buy when the candle is Bullish
- Sell when the candle is Bearish
- There is no TP level
- SL is yesterdays high or low(depends on if you are selling or buying ofcourse).
Something more about the SL. I have a EA that closes the trade and not a set in stone SL incase the broker stop hunts (what I think they don't do but you never know). The EA closes the trade when a candle closes above/below yesterdays high/low. So it doesn't close the trade when it spikes in the range and retraces.
Because it is a really risky system you can start with a really low bank. I started with 100$(one trade is the whole bank), almost everyone in the trading business can afford to lose that and if you can't you shouldn't trade at all. I traded with a super high leverage 1:2000. This is not needed but I did this to see how I would react. You need to have nerves of steel if you want to trade with 1:2000. Because this is over leveraged I can't just use the normal SL rule. My DD must be 50% in order to work with 1:2000 so I can only afford to lose 34 pips (5 digit broker, spread is 5-8 pips, commission is more then average when you make winning trade but zero when you make a losing trade so that’s really nice!) I said to myself to use this rule after I got 500% growth because I thought I would never make it.
The results:
From 17-June till Today Leverage 1:2000 Start with 100$
Sell Day 1:
Open 1.35619
Close 1.35531 Gain: 88 Pips
88 Pips x (0.00001/1.35531)x(100$ x 2000) = 129$ +100$ = 229$
Buy Day 2:
Open 1.35570
Close 1.36375 Gain: 805 Pips
805 Pips x (0.00001/1.36375)x(229$ x 2000) = 2703$ +229$ = 2,932$
Sell Day 3:
Open 1.36349
Close 1.36103 Gain: 246 Pips
246Pips x (0.00001/1.36103)x(2932$ x 2000) = 10,598$ +2703$ = 13,530$
Sell Day 4:
Open 1.36023
Close 1.35803 Gain: 220 Pips
220Pips x (0.00001/1.35803)x(13,530$ x 2000) = 43,837$ +10,598$ = 54,435$
Sell Day 5:
Open 1.35764
Close 1.35798 Gain: -34Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.35798)x(54,435$ x 2000) = -27,257$ +544,35$ = 27,178$
Sell Day 6:
Open 1.36197
Close 1.36088 Gain: 109 Pips
109Pips x (0.00001/1.36088)x(27,178$ x 2000) = 43,536$ +27,178$ = 70,714$
Buy Day 7:
Open 1.36028
Close 1.36230 Gain: 202 Pips
202Pips x (0.00001/1.36230)x(70,714$ x 2000) = 209,707$ +707,14$ = 280,421$
Sell Day 8:
Open 1.36138
Close 1.36172 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36172)x(280,421$ x 2000) = -140,210$ +280,421$ = 140,210$
Sell Day 9:
Open 1.36115
Close 1.36149 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36149 )x(280,421$ x 2000) = -140,210$ +280,421$ = 140,210$
Sell Day 10:
Open 1.36527
Close 1.36561 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36561)x(140,210$ x 2000) = -70,105$ +140,210$ = 70,105$
Buy Day 11:
Open 1.36886
Close 1.36852 Gain: -34Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36852)x(70,105$ x 2000) = -35,052$ +70,105$ = 35,052$
Buy Day 12:
Open 1.36555
Close 1.36521 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36521)x(35,052$ x 2000) = -17,526$ +35,052$ = 17,526$
Sell Day 13:
Open 1.36515
Close 1.35881 Gain: 634 Pips
634Pips x (0.00001/1.35881)x(17,526$ x 2000) = 163,547$ +17,526$ = 181,073$
Buy Day 14:
Open 1.35879
Close 1.35981 Gain: 102 Pips
102Pips x (0.00001/1.35981)x(181,073$ x 2000) = 271,847$ +181,073$ = 452,920$
Sell Day 15:
Open 1.35953
Close 1.36987 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36987)x(452,920$ x 2000) = -226,460$ +452,920$ = 226,460$
Sell Day 16:
Open 1.35928
Close 1.35962 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.35962)x(226,460$ x 2000) = -113,230$ +226,460$ = 113,230$
Buy Day 17:
Open 1.36123
Close 1.36337 Gain: 214 Pips
214Pips x (0.00001/1.36337)x(113,230$ x 2000) = 355,460$ +113,230$ = 468,690$
Sell Day 18:
Open 1.36237
Close 1.36127 Gain: 110 Pips
110Pips x (0.00001/1.36127)x(468,690$ x 2000) = 757,467$ +468690$ = 1,226,157$
Sell Day 19:
Open 1.36039
Close 1.36073 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36073)x(1,226,157$ x 2000) = -613,078$ +1,226,157$$ = 613,078$
Sell Day 20:
Open 1.36210
Close 1.36040 Gain: 170 Pips
170Pips x (0.00001/1.36040)x(613,078$ x 2000) = 1,532,244$ +613,078$ = 2,145,322$
Total Gain: 2594 Pips
Growth: 429,060%
Sell Day 21:
Open 1.35968
Close 1.35426 Gain: 542 Pips
542Pips x (0.00001/1.35426)x(2,145,322$ x 2000) = 17,171,954$ +2,145,322$ = 19,317,276$
Sorry for clutter based out of Excel.
The conclusion:
I did this with real money because it is only 100$. The second day my nerves were tested to see almost a margin call is not fun after that I was full of joy the first days, ofcourse, but the 5th day I shit my pants. To see such big DD(I knew it before I started but still....) and especially with large sums of money its so painful. The world stops for a moment. So my first reaction that day is to pull all the money of it. That was still a big deal 27k. I still continued it on paper to see if I was lucky, to see the pros and cons etc. It was a big gamble. I wouldn't recommend it but you will learn a big lesson, to see how you react and how emotional driven you are in such situations. Then it is really worth the 100$.
What also is worth mentioning is that a system is not everything but a strategy is. As you can see the entries are almost the same as a coin flip. But what you can do with good SL and TP, with support and resistance(yesterdays high/low). Cut your losers and let your winners run. Use a leverage what you can handle, good MM etc etc etc.
Maybe ill start an account on a broker with lower leverage like 1:200 and that allows a Forex Factory Explorer
Green pipping to everyone
Hello everybody,
I would like to tell you something about this strategy http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=494447 (more a system, because there is no MM included etc.) I am a student 19 years old, I study economics. I traded demo since my 16th and real when I was 18 years old. I saw alot strategy's and systems, made my own out of others and after alot tweaking it was finally done. It made and still does make a steady x% monthly. Everyday I had to do the same thing preparation mental, read somewhat about the news upcomming (I trade technical); this got me bored. I still liked trading alot don't get me wrong.
Then I read this thread about a month ago, http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...444377&page=79 from a mathematical standpoint it is fairly easy, but in practice it is really hard as always often with mathematical things. I really love to make things work so I began to search for a basic working system for this, made my own out of others (what I really recommend for beginners after they read everything at Babypips).
Now I am going to tell you why I am posting this here. My system for Rags to Riches is almost the same as what OP posted here http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=494447.
The rules:
- Trade on the hourly on major pairs, I only traded EUR/USD
- Trade @ the second candle after the opening of the London session (so you don't get disturbed by opening breakouts).
- Close the trade @ opening level of the candle
- Open the trade @ closing level of the candle
- Buy when the candle is Bullish
- Sell when the candle is Bearish
- There is no TP level
- SL is yesterdays high or low(depends on if you are selling or buying ofcourse).
Something more about the SL. I have a EA that closes the trade and not a set in stone SL incase the broker stop hunts (what I think they don't do but you never know). The EA closes the trade when a candle closes above/below yesterdays high/low. So it doesn't close the trade when it spikes in the range and retraces.
Because it is a really risky system you can start with a really low bank. I started with 100$(one trade is the whole bank), almost everyone in the trading business can afford to lose that and if you can't you shouldn't trade at all. I traded with a super high leverage 1:2000. This is not needed but I did this to see how I would react. You need to have nerves of steel if you want to trade with 1:2000. Because this is over leveraged I can't just use the normal SL rule. My DD must be 50% in order to work with 1:2000 so I can only afford to lose 34 pips (5 digit broker, spread is 5-8 pips, commission is more then average when you make winning trade but zero when you make a losing trade so that’s really nice!) I said to myself to use this rule after I got 500% growth because I thought I would never make it.
The results:
From 17-June till Today Leverage 1:2000 Start with 100$
Sell Day 1:
Open 1.35619
Close 1.35531 Gain: 88 Pips
88 Pips x (0.00001/1.35531)x(100$ x 2000) = 129$ +100$ = 229$
Buy Day 2:
Open 1.35570
Close 1.36375 Gain: 805 Pips
805 Pips x (0.00001/1.36375)x(229$ x 2000) = 2703$ +229$ = 2,932$
Sell Day 3:
Open 1.36349
Close 1.36103 Gain: 246 Pips
246Pips x (0.00001/1.36103)x(2932$ x 2000) = 10,598$ +2703$ = 13,530$
Sell Day 4:
Open 1.36023
Close 1.35803 Gain: 220 Pips
220Pips x (0.00001/1.35803)x(13,530$ x 2000) = 43,837$ +10,598$ = 54,435$
Sell Day 5:
Open 1.35764
Close 1.35798 Gain: -34Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.35798)x(54,435$ x 2000) = -27,257$ +544,35$ = 27,178$
Sell Day 6:
Open 1.36197
Close 1.36088 Gain: 109 Pips
109Pips x (0.00001/1.36088)x(27,178$ x 2000) = 43,536$ +27,178$ = 70,714$
Buy Day 7:
Open 1.36028
Close 1.36230 Gain: 202 Pips
202Pips x (0.00001/1.36230)x(70,714$ x 2000) = 209,707$ +707,14$ = 280,421$
Sell Day 8:
Open 1.36138
Close 1.36172 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36172)x(280,421$ x 2000) = -140,210$ +280,421$ = 140,210$
Sell Day 9:
Open 1.36115
Close 1.36149 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36149 )x(280,421$ x 2000) = -140,210$ +280,421$ = 140,210$
Sell Day 10:
Open 1.36527
Close 1.36561 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36561)x(140,210$ x 2000) = -70,105$ +140,210$ = 70,105$
Buy Day 11:
Open 1.36886
Close 1.36852 Gain: -34Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36852)x(70,105$ x 2000) = -35,052$ +70,105$ = 35,052$
Buy Day 12:
Open 1.36555
Close 1.36521 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36521)x(35,052$ x 2000) = -17,526$ +35,052$ = 17,526$
Sell Day 13:
Open 1.36515
Close 1.35881 Gain: 634 Pips
634Pips x (0.00001/1.35881)x(17,526$ x 2000) = 163,547$ +17,526$ = 181,073$
Buy Day 14:
Open 1.35879
Close 1.35981 Gain: 102 Pips
102Pips x (0.00001/1.35981)x(181,073$ x 2000) = 271,847$ +181,073$ = 452,920$
Sell Day 15:
Open 1.35953
Close 1.36987 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36987)x(452,920$ x 2000) = -226,460$ +452,920$ = 226,460$
Sell Day 16:
Open 1.35928
Close 1.35962 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.35962)x(226,460$ x 2000) = -113,230$ +226,460$ = 113,230$
Buy Day 17:
Open 1.36123
Close 1.36337 Gain: 214 Pips
214Pips x (0.00001/1.36337)x(113,230$ x 2000) = 355,460$ +113,230$ = 468,690$
Sell Day 18:
Open 1.36237
Close 1.36127 Gain: 110 Pips
110Pips x (0.00001/1.36127)x(468,690$ x 2000) = 757,467$ +468690$ = 1,226,157$
Sell Day 19:
Open 1.36039
Close 1.36073 Gain: -34 Pips
-34Pips x (0.00001/1.36073)x(1,226,157$ x 2000) = -613,078$ +1,226,157$$ = 613,078$
Sell Day 20:
Open 1.36210
Close 1.36040 Gain: 170 Pips
170Pips x (0.00001/1.36040)x(613,078$ x 2000) = 1,532,244$ +613,078$ = 2,145,322$
Total Gain: 2594 Pips
Growth: 429,060%
Sell Day 21:
Open 1.35968
Close 1.35426 Gain: 542 Pips
542Pips x (0.00001/1.35426)x(2,145,322$ x 2000) = 17,171,954$ +2,145,322$ = 19,317,276$
Sorry for clutter based out of Excel.
The conclusion:
I did this with real money because it is only 100$. The second day my nerves were tested to see almost a margin call is not fun after that I was full of joy the first days, ofcourse, but the 5th day I shit my pants. To see such big DD(I knew it before I started but still....) and especially with large sums of money its so painful. The world stops for a moment. So my first reaction that day is to pull all the money of it. That was still a big deal 27k. I still continued it on paper to see if I was lucky, to see the pros and cons etc. It was a big gamble. I wouldn't recommend it but you will learn a big lesson, to see how you react and how emotional driven you are in such situations. Then it is really worth the 100$.
What also is worth mentioning is that a system is not everything but a strategy is. As you can see the entries are almost the same as a coin flip. But what you can do with good SL and TP, with support and resistance(yesterdays high/low). Cut your losers and let your winners run. Use a leverage what you can handle, good MM etc etc etc.
Maybe ill start an account on a broker with lower leverage like 1:200 and that allows a Forex Factory Explorer
Green pipping to everyone