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DislikedThank you very much. That's what makes this thread so special. We're not about trying to out do one another. We're about traders helping traders. When somebody contributes, everybody benefits-that includes the contributor.Ignored
DislikedYou're welcome. I've spent the last hour or so trying to figure out how to add chapters to the PDF. As far as I can tell It's pretty much impossible without getting Adobe pro. Which i've no intention of spending money on. I could do it through formatting in Open Office but I can't get my head around it. So we'll have to make do without chaptersIgnored
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What about any of that speaks to bullishness? This has to be No Demand. There is no way that the Smart Money is interested in higher prices at this time.Ignored
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No Demand is defined as a narrow range UP bar on volume less than the previous two bars.
Some prefer the No Demand to close in the middle or low of its range. Some prefer the interval to make a higher high than the previous interval. Yet at the core, remains the idea that No Demand in its base form is an UP bar.
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DislikedI asked you to ignore the previous candles. Candle 1 in both cases does not show any strength, but I do not agree about your thoughts that a test always means strenght. SM are testing almost always both in bear and bull market. And a test that fails means weakness.
This is my definition of Hidden test, please correct me if I am wrong:
Hidden Test: narrow range up bar on volume less than the previous two bars, that closes in the upper portion of its range. I prefer that the interval makes a LL than the previous interval, but you said in your...Ignored
DislikedHi Scipio,
In VSA there is no term used to define a test for demand. Not entirely sure why, but there you are.
A test in the right place, always means the SM are wanting to raise prices. If the test fails, they may not be able to raise prices imiediately but, they will want to soon. The only place where a test doesn't indicate SMs intentions to raise price is in Hawaii.
A test might be hidden because it is an up bar. Some here have it hidden because the volume is too high but, I don't like that description. If the volume is too high it becomes...Ignored
DislikedHi Intel, ty for your explanation...I have to disagree, take a look at the chart below, it is EU 5min of today.
Around the fibo50% line early in the morning there was some sign of congestion...No doubt that we were on distribution phase. At the end of distribution phase, bearish trend can start, but look at the volume...it is insane because it is decreasing. Around 50% SM are testing to find out if there is demand left (and in this case they will absorb it). No demand is found and a sane bearish trend can start.
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DislikedI won't argue with any of your analysis. But here's the rub, THERE IS NO VSA TERM FOR A TEST OF DEMAND.
I will personally recognise a test for demand but, Tom doesn't mention one anywhere in his books. ALL of the tests he describes are testing for supply only.
I don't know why he wouldn't use the test for demand in a similar manner to the test for supply but, he doesn't.
Thats not to say it doesn't go on.....of course it does......and I personaly use them. However, if we are here to teach/help others learn VSA, then we should teach/help them...Ignored
DislikedSome clear signs of accumulation on EU, this is a 5 min chart...
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DislikedI hope you don't mind but I threw two lines on your chart. The low of the upper UHV bar and the high of the lower UHV bar and inbetween these two levels is only 15 pips and really a dead zone. We have actually failed a 3rd time at that upper line since you posted you chart.
Are they accumulating at 3100? Perhaps but if so we will see it on something higher than a 5 minute chart. Don't get too wrapped up in ACC and DIST when trading lower TF's... look for climax and then at least another 2 matching SOS or SOW (in the right place of course)...Ignored
DislikedThose are not failures! look at the volume...while prices rise, volume decrease: SM are withdrawing from the market but they are still bullish...They think to absorb further supply at lower prices.
I disagree with you...a chart whatever is the TF never lies...
Also for me this is all of couse my humble opinion and just my 2 cents.
There is only one master and he is Hidden Gap
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DislikedSome clear signs of accumulation on EU, this is a 5 min chart...
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DislikedThen perhaps next time when you say Comments? Change it to "please I want no one but HG to offer their comments", that will save everyone a lot of wasted time and keep it so no one else has to put up with a rude reply from you when they simply offer their comments as you asked.
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DislikedThose are not failures! look at the volume...while prices rise, volume decrease: SM are withdrawing from the market but they are still bullish...They think to absorb further supply at lower prices.Ignored
DislikedHe's saying not to ask for comments and then give a rude reply to a comment you do get.
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DislikedI'm sorry, I speak a very poor english...Maybe I have been misunderstood...Ignored
DislikedOn to the chart.
I have attached a 12 minute chart of roughly the same time period.
I too see what looks like accumulation taking place.
Notice the amount of down bars with volume greater than average that are closing off their lows. The first few don't confirm with the next bar up, but they still show signs of strength/demand entering the market.Ignored